Be careful what you wish for

[tompte]

What do you want to attract? I only want givers. I think most people are either givers or takers, and I judge them by their actions. I've never spent over $40 on a meal for a girl and if she isn't paying her share for everything by the third date, I'm out of there. Believe it or not, there are plenty of girls who are fine with this. The one's who aren't are probably takers and will never do much for you. Anyone who pays for a girl's travel expenses is nuts. If she's not offering to give you a massage without you asking, move on to the next one who will. You deserve the best as long as you are a giver as well.

[Pronto]

I agree.

I will give a woman a chance to prove to me, that she's able to give, so she can receive. Its part and parcel of the value you have and the value and attitude she thinks she has.

If your frame is that she's better than you and you have to spoil her to keep her, you never will anyway. Pretty much every HB has some fool, backup guy, to guarantee that she isn't going to be alone if she wants to go out, and who will never get anything but a thankyou, our a peck on the cheek. (and for that matter, so do a lot of average ones)

I went to this Xmas dinner and dance, and there was this woman at my table who constantly had this guy at her beck and call, getting drinks, making sure she was happy....

I happened to talk to him at the bar, while I was getting myself a drink and learned that he thought he was her "boyfriend" and had known her for a couple of years. I asked him how long they'd been together as a couple, and he said, they were off and on, but thought things were getting more serious....

Well, this was pretty funny. I get introduced to her and others at the table, while he's off somewhere, warming up her shoes or something, I make a brief comment about them, and immediately from facial expressions, see that its all one sided.

Naturally I busted her for it. And she gets all embarrassed and starts to look down. I ask her, doe he have any idea he's not getting any? No.

You know, he thinks he's your boyfriend don't you. " oh , no, he knows we're just friends. Are you sure, I ask her. She looks down again.....

Boy, he sure got lucky that night... got drunk so he could claim to not be able to drive home, and got to sleep all by himself on the couch that night.

Meanwhile my date gave me a treat in the car between the main course and desert, so I gave her a treat when we got back to her place..

[goforit14]

so true, once they get used to getting things off you there' s no going back. I can honestly say that i have gone out with nothing but my phone in my pocket and done the same with or without money. hell i even went a step further i ask them to pay for me and they do. is just something new to them