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Roadrunner_United
01-31-2007, 03:01 PM
There are a lot of posts asking for advice on how to respond to a test from a woman.

Like most guys, when I first started I wanted the perfect line for each test. It's not so much about the lines, but rather the way you respond.

When faced with a Frame Test you have 5 different ways you can respond.

Each type of response gets you + or - attraction points.

For this example, we will look at when things are going great and all of a sudden a girl accuses you of being a player. However, this cheat sheet will work for most other tests.
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1. Getting upset by a test or losing control of your emotions (-2 PTS)

Hb: Are you a player?

I don't know. I mean, No. I am not a player! No, really. Do you believe me? (guy starts pouting) I can't believe you don't believe me.

2. Responding to the test with logic (-1 PT)

Well lets see, my last GF was in March, 2001. We decided to take a break because she needed to focus on her school work. So... no, I'm not a player.

3. Ignore test and cut thread. (+1 PT)

4. Agree with her & exaggerate. Diffuse with humor. (+2 PTS)

Yep, I'm a total pimp. I have 22, no wait counting you that's 23 GFs. It's kinda hard pleasing all of them in bed at the same time.

This is what most people do (C&F). It works, no doubt. But there is an even better way.

5. Reframe the test as she is attracted to you. (+3 PTS)

Hb: You are probably a player. I'm not fooled.
6yc: So, tell me something. When did you first realize... (pause) you were attracted to me?

Pull her close and kiss her

Here is a recent example of a test I got during an IM conversation.

Hb: Hey, I saw pictures of you from the party last night. Looks like you were hitting on every girl. Are you a player?
6yc: So...you were checking me out huh? Hmmm...

Notice how I ignore her thread (+1) and reframe her test (are you a player?) as she was sitting home and staring at my picture all day (+3).

Take tests for what they are. She wants you.

Reframing (#5) also works well for AMOGs and other people in your life who try to lower your value. Just replace (attracted) with (person is trying to get you to like him b/c he is insecure)

For example

Amog (TD): Wicked shirt dude. My little sister has the same one... but with like the little stripes on it.

6yc: (Laughing) Bro, you don't have to keep trying so hard to get me to like you. I already told you, you are a cool guy.

So next time anyone tests your frame, whether it be your girlfriend or that annoying guy at work, see how many + or -points you got based on your type of response.

Review

-2 pts) you get mad or upset
-1 pt) you use logic
+1 pt) you ignore the test
+2 pts) you agree with the test & exaggerate it (C&F?)
+3 pts) you reframe the test as she is attracted to you

Knowing how to deal with tests correctly is probably the #1 skill you will need in having a successful LTR. If you think you get tested a lot out in the field...just wait until you are dealing with MLTRs (lol)

6YC

No girl ever left a guy because he was too much of a challenge

virile
04-13-2008, 03:16 AM
Good post. Those are some tight examples, thanks.

genki
04-13-2008, 11:09 AM
This is a really good post.

I think it's a good idea if you learn a few basic responses to the more common shit tests, but ultimately, the key is just to be unreactive and hold your frame...

I often use the +2 points Response: agree with her and exaggerate. It goes over well. Usually gets her giggling, and makes a good excuse for overt kino.

KingTut
05-07-2008, 12:53 AM
Awesome post. Thank you.

When I forget to do +2 or +3 the girl will usually bust on me for being lame and that reminds me to bust her back. I just make something up then such as: 'Wow I really admire that you are trying so hard but it's getting a bit annoying. Can you just chill and talk like a normal person? I won't run away. I promise!" And end it with a slightly evil grin.

dreamerboyinnyc
05-08-2008, 08:00 PM
nice post man

DeLight
05-10-2008, 10:09 AM
wow thanks man

haggard
05-10-2008, 02:36 PM
Very good stuff man... thanks!

Sage
05-10-2008, 10:46 PM
"For example

Amog (TD): Wicked shirt dude. My little sister has the same one... but with like the little stripes on it.

6yc: (Laughing) Bro, you don't have to keep trying so hard to get me to like you. I already told you, you are a cool guy."


This one is funny to me because I used a similar response to a guy I work with who likes to think he is the man (when really he's just loud and obnoxious). His face turned beat red and he just sort of walked off not really knowing what to say in response.
Just proof that anything you learn in the community will help you in any area of your life.

Bobby K
08-18-2008, 10:31 AM
nice post thanks :)

Anton
08-24-2008, 10:47 PM
Very good post! This is powerful..

ledAstray
08-31-2008, 08:09 PM
So what about this?

Him: Size doesn't matter.
Her: Yes, it does! So, you got a small penis, hu?
Him: ?

+2 would probably be: "Yeah, man! It's so small, you gotta see it!"
+3 would be what? Maybe: "We've know each other for a couple of minutes and yet you can't stop thinking about my penis? I'm flattered, but I gotta dissapoint you: I'm not that easy!"

WickPlusC
09-04-2008, 04:26 AM
Him: Size doesn't matter.
Her: Yes, it does! So, you got a small penis, hu?
Him: ?
Small? Tiny! Almost as tiny as your breasts are flat.

Jordp
09-04-2008, 01:09 PM
So what about this?

Him: Size doesn't matter.



I stay well away from this phrase, its a perfect set-up for anyone to bust on you...you need a pretty good line to get out of this one..

sniper420
09-04-2008, 08:37 PM
So what about this?

Him: Size doesn't matter.
Her: Yes, it does! So, you got a small penis, hu?
Him: ?

+2 would probably be: "Yeah, man! It's so small, you gotta see it!"
+3 would be what? Maybe: "We've know each other for a couple of minutes and yet you can't stop thinking about my penis? I'm flattered, but I gotta dissapoint you: I'm not that easy!"

"size depends on how much u can take it, but let me tell yeah it's equipped with G-spot hitter to rock a natural women's world (look at random woman or away from her)"

"mmm prettier the woman the larger it is.....too bad I can't hide a boner from a 10" (this will put her to scale of comparison)

sniper420
09-04-2008, 09:20 PM
To add tho this post there is no other material or book written better than Frank http://seductiondatabase.com/showthread.php?t=2197&highlight=frank&page=3

Manna
09-15-2008, 01:10 AM
This was a really good piece of information. Thanks man, but i've got a question.. its kinda been bothering me..

I was talking to a girl and skydiving came up.. the conversation went like this

"so when are you going skydiving with me?" (me)
"Skydiving? Haha Idk?" (her)
"Yeah skydiving. Come on"
"Ha im so afraid of heights. Will you keep me safe? (:"
''psh of course i would. I'd make sure you had a good trainer haha" [now i think what she was going for, but i was playing either ignore or just act dumb]
"Ok haha. Wait would you not come with me?"
"Psh and let you screw up my perfect dive? Nah :]" [attempting to lower her]
":( really? Lol."
"Haha Nah you could go with me"
"Haha k good :)"
"If you stay on your best behavior haha"
"Ill try ;)"

Is there anything better i could have done? Is there anything I did wrong? This certain conversation just stuck out in my head..

[V]
09-15-2008, 04:31 AM
heres a better reply to:

Amog (TD): Wicked shirt dude. My little sister has the same one... but with like the little stripes on it.

PUA: Your sister has good taste...I taught her that ;)

playerBoy
09-28-2008, 01:14 AM
Guys this guy only does these things in his own mind, because thats the only way they work.. women are people.. talk to them normally and you'll begin to understand them as people!

Follow what he does and you'll spend the night in a cell for assualt!

Astrit
09-28-2008, 02:28 AM
shit you shouldnt try to remember a bunch of coversational lines its just weird...
as long as you dont reply shittests in anyway logically(its always qualifying yourself) or hesitate and are unsure youre always good to go. BUT I think the absolut best way to handle shittest not only with women but generally in life like amogs or neighbours/colleauges or whatever is through REFRAIMING. refraiming is such powerful so that you seem unvulnerable to others. when chicks want to shittest you always reframe as for example there horny and want sex with you.
for example:
hb: you asshole, dick whatever.
me: your so sexy when youre so feisty

if you reframe chicks will fall down for you.

michael halls - Frame Games is the best source to learn this powerful skill

san1
10-30-2008, 02:20 AM
I actually tried this:
Her: are you a player?
Me: Ofcourse, aren't u? I play soccer, basketball and foot hockey sometimes. the sculpted Greek god you see before u doesn't come easy, u know.