The Paragon Project

[BlackBull]

Hey guys,
Just stumbled across this and it sounded pretty good. Anyone want to write a review about it?
http://www.paragonproject.com

[sublime]

never heard of them, probably a scam

[Yopua]

Hey blackbull, I visit those forums a lot, its not a scam. They gave the Crash Course for free and currently they are working on "The New Breed". It is more of natural game.

[Eight]

I've been with the Paragon Project for a while now. I discovered them in 2002 via the site admin's, TP (The Player), BecomeAPlayer.com website.

They have a free PUA-oriented forum just like here.. except there it is a smaller, closely knit community focused primarily on members giving and receiving advice to and from eachother. The main objective of that community is to abolish AFC behavior and focus on developing strong inner game and natural outer game. Frame building, self-improvement, value perception, and anti-pedestalling is the focus there.

Unlike Seduction Database, which offers an endless supply of information from PUA techniques around the world.. The Paragon Project has a group of experienced PUAs as member advisers reffered to as The Inner Circle (TIC) that collaborate with the site admin TP (The Player) and member contributions to compile their own eBook guides for destroying AFC mindsets and developing natural game.

The Crash Course is the first eBook that resulted from this. It's a 200+ page eBook that's freely downloadable. It focuses on destroying AFC behavior and mindsets, and introduces frame control and value perception. The New Breed is the next eBook in the series, which will be focused more on techniques and situation specific game.

What I like about their material is it is original and community created.

The pool of knowledge here on Seduction Database is definately deeper than any other PUA community I've encountered, but I will always be Paragon Project faithful because that community was the catalyst for my journey from an AFC to a confident PUA.

[Yopua]

8 man, hows it going? :) its Haha from there :D. And ya that site introduced me to PUA.

[Eight]

8 man, hows it going? :) its Haha from there :D. And ya that site introduced me to PUA.

:) That's trippy. You're not on my Beastiality forum too, are you? LOL. Joking...

..

or AM I

[BlackBull]

Hey haha and 8... Guess who I am:p

[Eight]

Oh snap, Black, you obviously underestimate the power of my amazing super-ninja mind.

Let's see..

If you're asking us to guess, you must be a reg, otherwise how would we know you.. and the fact that you labelled yourself a "seduction legend" is a tell that says you have an ego that craves recognition and notoriety. The large centered, bolded font of your sig also confirms this personality trait.. and the only two regs I know that fit this bill are Marcd, and Xero.. THat narrows it down alot, doesn't it? Are you sweating yet? : )

Question is, which cat are you? Any more clues?

You've used smileys in both posts of this thread, but both M and Z used smileys, so that's a dead-end pursuit...

You use connected periods between sentences.. That's something that M does. Z is more of a run-on sentence guy, a comma-whore.

And the final clue, you started this thread. M is a thread starter. Z prefers to weigh in with comments.

All the signs point to you being MarcDelux. Shabam. How's that for guessing. ; )

[BlackBull]

Wow, Your good! Marc here...

[Eight]

; ) Good to see ya bro.

[Yopua]

Haha nice 8 :D

[Myst]

Paragon Project is the shit.

Best Lion is one of the guys that slapped me silly back in my AFC days and pretty much was the one that heavily influenced me to pretty much end my oneitis with this chick and become a better man.

[BlackBull]

Haha, 8, I must say I am impressed!

[Eight]

AFC? I'm not acronym-savvy
Average Frustrated Chump. Here's a list of seduction terminology (http://www.paragonproject.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=14)

Paragon Project is the shit.

Best Lion is one of the guys that slapped me silly back in my AFC days and pretty much was the one that heavily influenced me to pretty much end my oneitis with this chick and become a better man.
I haven't seen BL on in a while. Who are you?

Haha nice 8
You know it!

Haha, 8, I must say I am impressed!
It was all just misdirection. I sleuthed your email addy, you had it on here somewhere on the site. Then I hopped to PP and you had your email addy in a thread there. *whistles innocently*

[BlackBull]

It was all just misdirection. I sleuthed your email addy, you had it on here somewhere on the site. Then I hopped to PP and you had your email addy in a thread there. *whistles innocently*LMAO I knew you coulnt be that good..

[Yopua]

Anyone else having trouble getting on the forums?

[Eight]

Anyone else having trouble getting on the forums?

Yeah, it's really annoying, because I was going to post part one of a series. TP needs to get on it and change webhosts. This has already happened too many times.

[BlackBull]

Yup, I also canot access the PP forums since about 2 days... Must be a problem with the webhost or all the data on it..

[Yopua]

Up again.

[sublime]

whoa! You guy seem close knit. i want in.

[AL1]

Ya the paragonproject.com is a great site, i am AK there, i spoke to you couples of times eight.

[BlackBull]

Ya the paragonproject.com is a great site, i am AK there, i spoke to you couples of times eight. Cool to see you here dude!

[Yopua]

Incase you guys don't know yet, they have the Crash Course free 200+ page ebook available:
Link (http://www.paragonproject.com/affiliates/affiliate/affiliate.php?id=13&group=1)
and then they also have The New Breed (two books,audio,etc.):
Link (http://www.paragonproject.com/affiliates/affiliate/affiliate.php?id=13&group=2)

[deviloangel]

What's up guys nice to see you guys here.

[deviloangel]

Before I start the review on this book, I want to briefly introduce myself first. I am early 20 years old guy who have studied seduction for a long time. I have collected materials for seduction since my high school years and have thought the books written by Neil Strauss and DVD series of David DeAngelo are the best ones on the market. However, when I downloaded the Crash Course and read through it, I was shocked and angered little because I felt like the enormous amounts of time and money I spent for seduction were wasteful. All the stuffs I have studied and practiced so far were all included in a single book, and what is more desperate for me was that…it is completely free.


It seems like people have prejudice that free products are not as good as priced products. The ideas in the Crash Course are not new. I already saw most of them in other books and on the webs. However, considering the books I have read(about a hundred) and the time I have spent on the internet(I don’t even know…), this book is amazing. It contains everything I have studied so far. Therefore, it is not impeccable to say that this book is the encyclopedia of seduction.


I am not saying that other popular seduction courses such as The Game and David DeAngelo’s courses are not good but that the other products spread information in many products. For example, I could get all the necessary information about body language and the way to become an alpha male in the the Crash Course in an hour, but a year ago I had to spend several hours to watch David DeAngelo’s body language DVD series and read Alpha Male by Mystery Method. Now you guys are lucky because unlike myself who had to find seduction techniques in many different places, you can get better much faster by reading the seduction encyclopedia and practicing it.


For the contents of the book, the Crash Course has three parts: the Inner Game, Outer Game, and Post-Game & Advanced Material. In the Inner Game, you can learn everything about the mind of PUAs. In the Outer Game, you can learn everything about how to act like PUAs. And in Post-Game & Advanced Material, you can get some noble ideas of TIC members which you cannot find in other products.


Moreover, this book is really easy to follow. While reading it, I felt like a friend is telling me the story of his own and what he learned from it. Also, what I liked about the book is that each technique comes with the real-life examples of TIC members. For example, in the opening Routines section, there are some examples like “Excuse me,*touch shoulder* I’m looking for my friends..you haven’t eaten them have you!?”*smile* This example even teaches us how to act!!


Undoubtedly, the Crash Course will be great for both the beginners and experts of seduction. For beginners it is the book which they can learn everything they need to seduce women successfully, and for experts,this book will help them to put the ideas in shape for The New Breed.

More information here:

Link for Crash Course
Crash Course (http://affiliates.paragonproject.com/affiliate/affiliate.php?id=25&group=1)
Link for The New Breed
The New Breed (http://affiliates.paragonproject.com/affiliate/affiliate.php?id=25&group=2)

[Eikooc]

checked out the crash course im halfway, and i gotta say thanks for the knowledge. PP already helped. The guys there are really willing to help.

[The_Jedi]

Sup, Eight? Haven't seen you for a long time, bro-therrrr! How ya been?

And I can testify that Paragon Project/Seduction University is NOT a scam. It is an excellent forum, actually, at which I used to post quite frequently. It is an extremely active forum, as well.

I would like to get my hands on the two New Breed ebooks, too. Not the crash course, mind you, but the actual New Breed ebooks. Anyone?