STOP relying on IOI's!!!

[mustaine]

Relying on IOI's in order feel like it's *on*, instead of assuming
attraction. Thinking too much and calculating your behavior based
on watching for IOI's. Don't wait around for IOI's before feeling
good about the sarge. Her interest will be based on your vibe
anyway, and if your vibe is dependent on watching for
predetermined IOI's, then you are leaving it up to chance.
Let's face it, most IOI's that people look for are pretty ordinary
behaviors that women exhibit when you talk to them anyway. Some
of the popular one's I've heard are:


She asks you where you're from - This is one of the most common
pieces of smalltalk when you're first getting to know each other. She
may be asking you this just to be friendly, it doesn't mean she wants
to fuck you. She touches you - women are actually more likely to touch you if
they aren't as attracted to you, as a way of playing with you. If a
woman senses extremely high value, and is a bit intimidated, she is
less likely to touch you. She is also less likely to touch you first if
you are very direct. Of course, if you don't even have a chance, she
won't touch you at all. Either way, unreliable as an IOI.


Remember, one of the two things necessary in pickup is the belief
that the girl wants you. It may be difficult to believe at first but keep
reminding yourself of this, and train yourself to see *everything* she
does as an IOI. Is she looking at you when you talk? It's on. Is she
contributing to the conversation? It's on. Is she standing in your
physical proximity? It's ON

[ilrein]

Is she looking at you when you talk? It's on. Is she
contributing to the conversation? It's on. Is she standing in your
physical proximity? It's ON

I love you.

[Isper]

I fully agree. If she is still hanging around and postitively interacting with you, then everything is a go. What other IOI's do you really need?

[Daemon]

A question regarding where you are from, or what you do etc is not a sign that she will sleep with you, but it is an indicator of her interest for you. Being friendly is an IOI in a certain way. Smalltalk from her side is also IOIs, but depending on how you act;
If you open a, lets say female three-set. And your target keeps pushing up the smalltalk with you, while you just neg her and focus mainly on her friends before setting the move to isolate her. Then its obvious that she is interested in you! Are you with me?

Now, I agree that you should never just wait for the IOIs, but you should train yourself up to just notice them. And yes, again, you're the man, you can satisfy
any women around the world. The women are lucky just to be in contact with you, they are guests in your life, YOUR WORLD.

[hak]

if shes still infront of u.. it's on

[sniper420]

if she is sucking ur ....... well it's really ON

[Cerebus]

The point of IOIs is not feel good about yourself, it is for figuring out when to escalate.

[tease]

So true man. Just forget about IOI's.
Don't even think about em.
I remember like 6 months ago, it always used to confuse me when girls break eyecontact very quick or even act like they haven't even looked in the first place. I always thought "WTF is wrong with them".
The point is though, that A LOT of girls are very shy and become intimidated easily.
So with the wrong perspective of looking at it, one could think that they are very bitchy, arrogant and are not attracted or interested at all.

THAT IS SO ABSOLUTELY WRONG IT'S NOT EVEN FUNNY!

As a matter of fact, in most cases it's actually true that the MORE INTIMIDATED they are, the MORE ATTRACTED they are.

This is where a lot of dudes actually fuck up. They think she is not attracted because they can't sense any IOI's and so they eject early- WRONG!

You just have to KEEP GOING AND PLOW THROUGH!
And you have have to lead her a.k.a. strong kino and make shit happen.
Because if girls are intimadeted they won't take the initiative.


Recap:

You come in high value = She's intimadeted
+ You KEEP GOING
+ You LEAD HER with STRONG KINO and MAKE SHIT HAPPEN

= You get laid!


That's all there is to it. Point blank an period.

Have fun out there ;)

[goldendsliver]

IOI`s is usefull in two situations,
or three; tree? if you are a real gent, like Mystery.
-------------------------------------------------------
IOI situation #1: close me.
(in zet, you chat, not closing, then you are flirting, before a close, the IOI`s is her escelating, etc).
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IOI situation #2: open me.
(she gives out IOI`s to the world or you directly with body-cues or words spoken in code to all guys or just you).
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IOI situation #3: the pua forces IOI`s with social dynamics and wait to close on his terms.

[Jekkle]

The point of IOIs is not feel good about yourself, it is for figuring out when to escalate.

you don't need to figure out when to escalate..your a man you escalate on your terms

IOIS in this case become a safety net.. creating a linear passage so that you can accept internally that "Its time to escalate"

reality is.. when you think you should kiss a girl or that shes attracted to you, then you are probably way past the point where you could have kissed the girl already

Men Lead.. Women want to be lead

[Cerebus]

You need two for tango.

[goldendsliver]

You need two for tango.

don t worry carebus, he is only protecting his mindset-.
without it he will die...

how/when you close is depentent on who you are.
+if you want a girlfriend or a one nighter,.

people advocate different stuff, but if you want something serious, I hold my card of decks on being a little careful with closing.
(but do escelate on a date, it must be "romantic",. kiss at the end. etc;=)

calibrate for yourself guys! of course, if you want to be a PUA and is not closing,. then practise it all the time!

[Bobby K]

"The point of IOIs is not feel good about yourself, it is for figuring out when to escalate."

Great wisdom. This might be obvious, but i figured that IOIs are less important post close. Say after you've had sex, i remember thinking yesterday with my girl 'hmm, she doesn't seem to give traditional IOIs anymore (hair playing etc)'.

[nnnnnn]

So true man. Just forget about IOI's.
Don't even think about em.
I remember like 6 months ago, it always used to confuse me when girls break eyecontact very quick or even act like they haven't even looked in the first place. I always thought "WTF is wrong with them".
The point is though, that A LOT of girls are very shy and become intimidated easily.
So with the wrong perspective of looking at it, one could think that they are very bitchy, arrogant and are not attracted or interested at all.

THAT IS SO ABSOLUTELY WRONG IT'S NOT EVEN FUNNY!

As a matter of fact, in most cases it's actually true that the MORE INTIMIDATED they are, the MORE ATTRACTED they are.

This is where a lot of dudes actually fuck up. They think she is not attracted because they can't sense any IOI's and so they eject early- WRONG!

You just have to KEEP GOING AND PLOW THROUGH!
And you have have to lead her a.k.a. strong kino and make shit happen.
Because if girls are intimadeted they won't take the initiative.


Recap:

You come in high value = She's intimadeted
+ You KEEP GOING
+ You LEAD HER with STRONG KINO and MAKE SHIT HAPPEN

= You get laid!


That's all there is to it. Point blank an period.

Have fun out there ;)

Yeah So true. I remember when when this girl was intimidated by my presence. Infact, Sometimes after talking to some girls, other girls that saw me, will usually walk past beside me with their face down since they know I'm an alpha male. I know they are attracted to me.

But I love the fact that I understood their message to me. So, I'll open them and start talking to them with ease since they've already seen me talk to other girls.
And like you said -ITS ON from there

[goforit14]

is funny i just noticed this on my self i started approaching more girls lately with the belief that they where already into me, after you TRULY beleif this your mind starts seeing everthing she does as an IOI

[moze]

What does IOI stand for? I also would like to know what does SOI means???

[thephenom]

Good post Must, its always on. I remembered listening to DYD's interview guru with Craig, and had the same thinking.

[Dimensio]

IOI - indicators of interest . External body language signs that she likes you

SOI - statement of intent, Where you tell a girl you like her and usually go for the kiss.

[moze]

Thanks Dimensio

[Silver-bullet]

Jekkle is right IOIs may make you feel good but they wont get you fed. They are just a bonus that gives your ego a massage.