Boostin
11-02-2008, 08:16 AM
Investment vs. Interest
A few years ago, I had just discovered the seduction community, and was doing very well for a beginner. I was constantly approaching sets, getting IOIs and even pulling off quite a few numbers.
One HUGE barrier that I experienced, and I'm sure all of you have, was flaking. Lots. Of. Fucking. Flaking.
Which was obviously annoying. I couldn't understand why I had these girls laughing, giggling, and hanging on to my every word, but still flaking. I could tell they were attracted, they were expressing enormous amounts of interest but when I called, tried to set up a Day 2, I'd get the usual bullshit.
"I'm sorry, I'm busy"
"I have lots of work to do recently"
"Sorry but I'm going out with my girlfriends"
Or, even better. They just don't pick up.
I pondered this for ages, and this was my major sticking point for around 6 months. Then I discovered our local community, and had one of the more experienced guys explain Investment vs Interest to me. And I clicked.
You see, when I, and most of the newbies, first started on our adventure to sexual stardom and self actualization, e.g. awesomeness ;) We were excited. We've just read the Mystery Method, or the Game, and we want to test these theories, these lines.
So we (Or the few that have balls enough) turn into approach machines and try out these lines. What did we find?
It FUCKING WORKS! YAY! We jump up in joy. We'd spit these routines out and find that girls were giggling and laughing, and giving us their opinions on stupid sh*t that we really didn't give half a damn about.
We'd barrage them routine after routine, line after line and they ate it up. They were interested. They could listen to us all day long. But how much did they put into the interaction? I want you guys to think back to the last set that flaked. How much did they actually put into the interaction? Yeah sure, they responded, they gave you their opinions on some light hearted funny topic, something fairly useless.
How much true FEELINGS did they put into the interaction?
How much EMOTION?
Did they share with you a secret that they have told no one about?
Did they put effort into the interaction?
Did you share an experience that they could not have with anyone else?
Or were they just giving you really mundane responses to shallow topics? They giggled and laughed at your jokes and banter, but they invested nothing. You were their entertainer.
Making a woman invest into the interaction is much more powerful than getting her showing interest.
If you invest 5 years into a long term relationship that goes nowhere, how hard is it to decide it's time to leave? It's excruciating. Why? Because you don't want all the emotion, the love, the time you've invested into this woman to go to waste.
Well, we can flip that, and have the woman experience a fear of loss. In your next interaction with a woman, try and draw out some investment. If you ask her a question, make her elaborate on her answer, ask her how she FEELS. Dig deep. Make her expose her thoughts/opinions/emotions/vulnerabilities/experiences to you...
Any woman can show interest, they even giggle at the fat, bald, low social value guy in the rarity that he says something amusing. Will they sleep with him? Probably not.
But when women INVEST, they want to PROTECT their investment. They WON you, they had to think of witty lines to keep you interested, they exposed a side of themselves they haven't to anyone else, they talked about their true, deep, feelings.
They fucking deserve you, they put way too much effort into you for you to just leave. They will chase, they will fuck, they will do anything to have you (By the way, this is were jealousy plot lines really have their full effect) . This is much more powerful than focusing solely on keeping them interested. Interest is a temporary mind state. They may be having fun and in a good mood, they may have had a few drinks and feel flirty. When they wake up tomorrow, they will not answer you call.
Often, getting a girl to invest requires investing of your own. Be prepared to, it's not a one way street.
When gauging or calibrating for how solid my set is, or likeliness of flaking, I look for investment, not interest. It doesn't lie.
I realize this is quite long, but this is really an important concept to get down pat, before moving on to more difficult stuff.
Good luck.
-Boostin'.
A few years ago, I had just discovered the seduction community, and was doing very well for a beginner. I was constantly approaching sets, getting IOIs and even pulling off quite a few numbers.
One HUGE barrier that I experienced, and I'm sure all of you have, was flaking. Lots. Of. Fucking. Flaking.
Which was obviously annoying. I couldn't understand why I had these girls laughing, giggling, and hanging on to my every word, but still flaking. I could tell they were attracted, they were expressing enormous amounts of interest but when I called, tried to set up a Day 2, I'd get the usual bullshit.
"I'm sorry, I'm busy"
"I have lots of work to do recently"
"Sorry but I'm going out with my girlfriends"
Or, even better. They just don't pick up.
I pondered this for ages, and this was my major sticking point for around 6 months. Then I discovered our local community, and had one of the more experienced guys explain Investment vs Interest to me. And I clicked.
You see, when I, and most of the newbies, first started on our adventure to sexual stardom and self actualization, e.g. awesomeness ;) We were excited. We've just read the Mystery Method, or the Game, and we want to test these theories, these lines.
So we (Or the few that have balls enough) turn into approach machines and try out these lines. What did we find?
It FUCKING WORKS! YAY! We jump up in joy. We'd spit these routines out and find that girls were giggling and laughing, and giving us their opinions on stupid sh*t that we really didn't give half a damn about.
We'd barrage them routine after routine, line after line and they ate it up. They were interested. They could listen to us all day long. But how much did they put into the interaction? I want you guys to think back to the last set that flaked. How much did they actually put into the interaction? Yeah sure, they responded, they gave you their opinions on some light hearted funny topic, something fairly useless.
How much true FEELINGS did they put into the interaction?
How much EMOTION?
Did they share with you a secret that they have told no one about?
Did they put effort into the interaction?
Did you share an experience that they could not have with anyone else?
Or were they just giving you really mundane responses to shallow topics? They giggled and laughed at your jokes and banter, but they invested nothing. You were their entertainer.
Making a woman invest into the interaction is much more powerful than getting her showing interest.
If you invest 5 years into a long term relationship that goes nowhere, how hard is it to decide it's time to leave? It's excruciating. Why? Because you don't want all the emotion, the love, the time you've invested into this woman to go to waste.
Well, we can flip that, and have the woman experience a fear of loss. In your next interaction with a woman, try and draw out some investment. If you ask her a question, make her elaborate on her answer, ask her how she FEELS. Dig deep. Make her expose her thoughts/opinions/emotions/vulnerabilities/experiences to you...
Any woman can show interest, they even giggle at the fat, bald, low social value guy in the rarity that he says something amusing. Will they sleep with him? Probably not.
But when women INVEST, they want to PROTECT their investment. They WON you, they had to think of witty lines to keep you interested, they exposed a side of themselves they haven't to anyone else, they talked about their true, deep, feelings.
They fucking deserve you, they put way too much effort into you for you to just leave. They will chase, they will fuck, they will do anything to have you (By the way, this is were jealousy plot lines really have their full effect) . This is much more powerful than focusing solely on keeping them interested. Interest is a temporary mind state. They may be having fun and in a good mood, they may have had a few drinks and feel flirty. When they wake up tomorrow, they will not answer you call.
Often, getting a girl to invest requires investing of your own. Be prepared to, it's not a one way street.
When gauging or calibrating for how solid my set is, or likeliness of flaking, I look for investment, not interest. It doesn't lie.
I realize this is quite long, but this is really an important concept to get down pat, before moving on to more difficult stuff.
Good luck.
-Boostin'.